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How to Get Promoted (Part 2)

In "How to Get Promoted (Part 2)," Megan and Justin Rosales discuss the intricacies of getting promoted. They explore the Peter Principle and share personal experiences about declining promotions. Key strategies for career advancement, such as problem-solving, adaptability, and prioritizing a boss's goals, are highlighted.

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hey there friends and welcome to becoming a boss where we take some time each week to talk about how to make the world a better place to work I'm your host Megan and today I'm back with my wonderful husband Justin to talk about getting promoted part two part two you want to say hello hi hi hi everybody so last week we started this conversation about how to get promoted and today we're going to wrap it up with the last bunch of practical handles for you to latch on to okay more handles so if you want to get promoted you're in the right place because we're going to give you all the goods on the other hand if you don't want to get promoted it's okay I can understand well because that was me that was you you did not want to get promoted you mentioned that last week I did we left them on a cliffhanger I don't think we ever told them no but we're going to tell them today good because I want to let them know it's okay if you don't want to be promoted it's okay okay and here's the reason why have you heard of the Peter principal no no okay you actually have okay I didn't know it was called that though and how I know it for sure is because we just read both the working genius we did and in the beginning of that book he mentions this scenario and the scenario is when you get promoted into a job that you're no you're not competent in like you can't do it oh yeah I do know this well I didn't know there was a name for it though poor Peter I know mhm well it was a book allegedly see um Dr Lawrence Peter that's it's not poor Peter it's actually great job Peter you came up with this thing okay good so he's a sociologist right so he's our people and he wrote a book blah blah blah I didn't read the book I just I knew of this concept and realized that it had a name yeah so that was cool cool anyway so the Peter Principle is where you basically keep getting promoted until you can no longer do the job okay now for my scenario it's not that I couldn't do the job I didn't want to do the job okay because you had said last week you had mentioned oh yeah they offered you a bunch of promotions and you turn out so I counted them out they're three three times that they actually offered me a promotion and I didn't take it I didn't realize it was three I counted them okay it was pretty official I believe you and the second time is when I was planning to move out of state remember we were planning to move here MH so I didn't I'm not going to take a promotion cuz I'm going to leave true so that was number two but the third time was not the charm the third time and the first time was the same the charm yeah third times is the charm you take the job but you never took the job you're so clever thanks okay so the second time was because I was planning to move out of state but the first and third time both times I didn't want to take the job yeah and the reason why is because both scenarios 80% client facing and I love being a Dependable source for the client to be fast to be honest to be reliable but I don't want to do that all the time I prefer the majority the rule and I've learned this recently in my path to self-discovery I really like teaching and all my jobs have I have a team so I get to teach them all the time I get to teach them yeah and that's what I really love to do I really really love to teach about leadership because you can see the direct impact in their life hopefully pushing them from one tax bracket to another that's my favorite but just teaching in general helping people be effective do their job well blah blah blah anyway so both Physicians 80% they were going to be client you know yeah and let me tell you what the client doesn't need you to teach them anything not a thing they just need you to do what they told you to do right okay all right so this happened to you too you had a similar scenario where opportunities have been presented to you but you knew you probably weren't going to love the type of work is that true well I remember there were a couple of opportunities where hey we could really use you crunching these numbers and running these report Salesforce reports because you're kind of the go-to for I need this report run yeah that's true a little bit of a plug-and play but you don't want to run reports all day yeah that's true I do know that when I was back at um the financial industry that I was giving a lot of opportunities to do things that I did not love um but I did them anyway without promotion but it did eventually get me promoted but at the time I had a decision do I want to get promoted or do I want to move to the place that I felt our family was called to next right so that was the same that was your number two yeah because I shouldn't have taken the job at least that's what I thought back then honey it have made a yeah another story for another day a but I committed that job for a year and it's a sad story it is a sad story we'll tell it some other time but we committed to the job for the year and after that year we ended up moving here anyway and then falling in love with what we get to do now yes yeah yes now what do you want to talk about well we were just going to go over the rest of the Practical handle okay and to be honest we went through so many we can only give them two handles though they only have two hands dos mhm all right so here's what we went over last time I had to get them in order because we were you know I was making you guess so order so anyway eliminate the boss's problems also bonus points if you can eliminate the boss's problems y by utilizing something that gives you Joy yes second one was to answer the boss's emails right away yep the and they're tapping their foot by you I remember you telling the story in the last podcast cuz they sent an email and they just came immediately over to your desk and sat and waited for you to respond 10 minut no he didn't sit 10 minutes tapping his foot he wouldn't actually tap his foot but he would come out and stand I'm here and he's right there mhm hey what's going on and he would lean over my and he's he's like s feet tall s he's a really tall dude and just okay my wife no my like all right so answer B the emails right away number six being in the top 10% of character we went over a whole bunch of those and we decided to add keep commitments to that because you the trust behaviors mhm yeah so we went over a whole bunch of those and number next be excited about changes this is a really big one because most people are not excited about changes they hate change if you're trying to stand out it makes sense yeah and here's what I don't get change is inevitable yeah it's for sure going to happen right so our body is literally changing every second of every day the cells are dying new cells are being created we're putting on new skin every day that's kind of gross it is but also we're stepping outside of our skin trying to get new all right too far into this analogy yeah well here's the thing let's pretend the change is that you have a new system in which you need to run your schedule now M and it's mandated by the company what good is it going to do you to Buck against that system are you going to get the CEO and the COO to change their policy for hundreds of people because you don't feel like changing I think sometimes people feel like if they say something they can change everything but it doesn't oh they try it a couple of times and they realize nothing changes and then they don't say anything I think it's learned helplessness like the dog you try to do something you try to get out you try to make a difference and then they don't see impact and then they just stop trying yeah I feel like that's probably 90% of the people yes but I feel like people start very hopeful and then realize like I'm going to go into this organization I'm going to make it a better place and it's going to be awesome wow that's okay hopeful helpful people I just don't feel like that's true okay but we can get a panel and interview them that could be the poll we can poll them yeah that could be the poll in this podcast because I don't I'm not on boorn with that okay anyway all right so number next prioritize your boss's goals or requests and the next one ask how you can help use your skills that you use your joy to just ask how you can help your boss ask how you can help your colleag just be helpful Y and the last one was listen closely to your boss so listen for what their needs are wants interest needs yeah you know what I'm saying okay all right that's what we went over last week so this week oh wait you can't not this you can see okay I'm not looking so you can't look he's cheating I'm not cheating all right no it's fine you can look that's my list I can't I'm not going to look okay go ahead then you want me to guess yeah no you just got to tell me the list oh okay so ask questions okay good leaders ask great questions quoted by John Maxwell well you are just book title after book title how I remember things MH all right so ask questions about the business find out what challenges other people are facing show curiosity about how you can serve others find out what your boss is dealing with what their boss is dealing with and that bridges over to be helpful because you're trying to yeah trying to be helpful well I recently learned from the har Business Review that one of the best things that you can do as a leader is to care for your team and to do that you actually have to ask them not are you getting your work done well yes you have to do that too but how are you doing how are you feeling how's your day how's your weekend the things that they actually care about maybe they don't care about their weekend maybe they actually just not just how are you doing but like how do you want to grow what do you want to achieve in life and then you can actually help them get there so asking a lot of good questions that are not just stupid but no no question that's not true they're stupid questions we can ask kind questions yeah will actually be helpful yeah and specific to the individual just find stuff out okay you can tell what people care about by what they talk about yeah that's a freebie all I did not include that in the thing okay number next learn things learn things we love this one we were just trying to guess a leadership test the other day and they were like what is one of the pillars of this and we both said learn but it was not one of the pillars but we still feel like it is an important silent subliminal pillar yeah I disagree I think it should be learned should bear because leaders are Learners that's right yeah and the world is constantly changing your team is changing yeah you might have new people but even if you have the same people the same people are changing and evolving and growing and hopefully they're learning you have to learn and if you just say learn things you can Encompass so many you could solve so many problems yeah you just continue to learn and you don't have to learn specific things we talked about the working genius a lot you can learn things that are actually making you better at the stuff that you love to do yeah I don't think that you should suffer through learning yeah find your joy find what you want to learn I hated learning in elementary school because it was all the stuff that I didn't want to learn Elementary that's like abc1 12 3 no it's like history I guess middle school and high school too but History Science I didn't like any of that stuff geography I was not a fan I became a fan when it was psychology because I love thinking about thinking and then everything changed well I loved school good I loved school I just love to learn things yeah I had a teacher though I would say his name but it's probably not nice I had a really terrible teach teacher okay yeah don't say his name I quit school I mean I I went back but yeah I I initially quit school because I was like I don't this Joker done with you done with you and all your tricks right so there are some different ways you could learn things read a book yes but sometimes I like a physical book sometimes you could listen to an audible book if you're driving or folding the clothes or mindlessly checking emails you could read SL listen to a book or you can listen to a podcast you can mindlessly listen to a podcast mhm there's so many different podcasts too I've learned because you know I'm in there now and you could try o try something new MH Branch out cultivate your interests yeah natal was telling me that she that's my sister yes she is doing so many cool things and none of them are the same it's all over the place she's working with the DEA Community she is working with young underprivileged children yep I mean all these different things that are I'm like you are doing you are doing it right if you try things then you know and you can kind of figure out what you want to do and you don't want to do yeah so there's that you don't have to wait till you're grown up and then figure it out right we're adults yes we are all right solve problems so that's number next number next solve problems this is also number six of wait a second it's already on here skip yeah all right Embrace change I already did that one we did okay two more okay are you excited so this is number I don't know what ask for feedback ask for feedback yeah that's not the easiest thing to do mhm what do you think about that I've heard what is it like to be on the other side of me yeah I'm just dreading hearing the answer it's hard it's hard to ask for a feedback MH it's also hard to give it yeah but I'd rather like my mind is more dangerous wandering and assuming how that person feels instead of just asking them straight up and popping the balloon mhm and just all right popping the balloon is scary let's just say ripping the bandid off mhm just understand what it is but they think needs to be different and I can say is this true is this not true if it is true then I can actually work to make it better mhm otherwise I can right just move on yeah just help me understand how I can get better yeah you can kind of read people's Expressions a little bit and tell if it's looking crunchy I don't like this one well I'm not saying you should just read an expression and make an assumption I'm not saying that yeah because I actually read so that lady I think she's a psychologist she was saying something like 80% of the time when you have a grouchy face on it's not because you're grouchy yeah cuz you're hungry well she listed other she listed a whole bunch of other reasons because I remember my team used to come over to my desk and they would be like are you are you okay and I would be just fine but I would be focused and that was actually one of the things she listed if you have this grouchy look on your face it could be just because you're you're really focused like I'm not alone yes all right last thing is perception is reality okay this is whack okay why well because perception is not reality but that's the world that we live in so for example other people's perception of perception mhm so if your boss sees you type in vlookup in Excel and it's a formula maybe they just assume that you are great at Excel mhm but but let's say if you look up is the only thing that you know yeah maybe that's the only thing you Googled that's how I operate I only know the things because I've Googled it and had to do it that's most of us YouTube yeah I'd rather do it that way anyway yeah so on the other hand this is where it can get nasty let's say somebody gives negative feedback to your boss about you then your boss has this perception that that is actually true even if it may or may not be true right and so that's one thing can be dangerous and obviously you could work to correct and learn and get better and try to fix the situation but but regardless if you fix the situation regardless if it was completely untrue to begin with your boss has this in his or her head that remains right well remember that one time when I got feedback about and so you have to work really really hard to overcome that yes the other example I could think of is well I didn't intend to do that that wasn't my intention it's like well I understand that however that's not how I came across and so that perception in the scenario it's like well that wasn't my heart it's like okay but people didn't see your heart they saw that you yelled at everybody and called them cuss words it's like okay well perception of everybody in the room was that this guy is or girl is not thinking clearly or whatever so we need to try better to get our heart across or to ask for feedback of how we could be better so that the perception can be changed yeah don't cuss that would be one yes well also help me understand yeah help me understand it's a great question yeah be inquisitive how would you ask questions there it is it's in there full circle okay I want to end on a quote that I really liked is do you know who roomy is no Ry no Jim Ry I don't know here's the quote okay be a lamp or a Lifeboat or a ladder okay don't you love it be a lamp for someone or be a Lifeboat for someone or be a ladder for someone yeah I was taking it literally I'm like I don't get it long day isn't it lovely it is great yeah light up the way save someone's life or help someone elevate my word I loved it all right well listen y'all I hope that that helped you I'm so excited about what you're about to do with this that is it for today though yeah thank you for listening and if you're seeing something at work that maybe you aren't ready to speak up about maybe let me be brave for you share your story by calling or texting me at 864 6191 1683 and let's pick it apart together o one more thing I have gotten a few stories and comments Etc from you in the past few weeks and I got to tell you I'm really loving digging into them all next week we're going to talk about some of the things that you sent me and also we're going to give you a few updates on the stories that we've shared over the past couple months it's going to be fun you can also type in the YouTube comments and tell us what you really liked or if you have an idea from the show and listen friend we know it's not easy but remember that whatever it is you're walking through You are not alone and together we can make the world a better place to work thanks for listening team take care and see you next week me that's why I stand on the book

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