In "How to Get Promoted (Part 2)," Megan and Justin Rosales discuss the intricacies of getting promoted. They explore the Peter Principle and share personal experiences about declining promotions. Key strategies for career advancement, such as problem-solving, adaptability, and prioritizing a boss's goals, are highlighted.
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Hey there, friends and welcome to becoming a boss where we take some time each week. Talk about how to make the world a better place to work. I'm your host, Megan. And today I'm back with my wonderful husband, Justin, to talk about getting promoted part two part two, I'm going to. Hello? Hi. Hi. Hi, everybody. The last week we started this conversation about how to get promoted. And today we're going to wrap it up with the last bunch of practical handles For you to latch on to. Okay. I'm more handles. So, if you want to get promoted, you're in the right place because we were going to give you all the goods. On the other hand, if you don't want to get promoted. That's okay. I can understand. Well, because that was me. He did not want to get promoted. You mentioned that last week I did. We left them on a cliffhanger. I don't think we ever told them. No, but we're going to tell them today. Good. Because I want to let them know it's okay. If you don't want to be promoted. It's okay. Okay. And here's the reason why have you heard of the Peter principle? No. Okay. You actually have, okay. I didn't know it was called that though. And how I know it for sure is because we just read both the working genius did we did. And in the beginning of that book, he mentions. This scenario. And this scenario is when you get promoted into a job. That your note, you're not competent in, like you can't do. Oh, yeah. I do know this. Well, I didn't know there was a name for it though. Poor Peter. I know. Well, it was a book allegedly see, um, Dr. Lawrence, Peter. That's just not poor. Peter. It's actually great job, Peter. You came up with this thing. Okay. So he's a sociologist, right? So he's our people. And he wrote a book, blah, blah, blah. I didn't read the book. I just, I knew of this concept and realized that it had a name. So that was cool. Cool anyway. So the Peter principle is where you basically keep getting promoted until you can no longer do the job. Okay. Now. For my scenario, It's not that I couldn't do the job. I didn't want to do the job. because you had said last week, You had mentioned, oh yeah.They offered you a bunch of promotions. So I counted them out. There are three. Three times that they actually offered me. Our promotion and it didn't take it. I didn't realize it was three. I counted them. Okay. That was pretty official. I believe you. And the second time is when I was planning to move out of state. Remember we were planning to move here. So I didn't. I'm not going to take a promotion because I'm going to leave true. So that was number two. But the third time was not the charm. The third time and the first time was the same. The charm. Yeah. Third time's the charm. You take the job. But you never took the job. You're so clever. Thanks. Okay. So the second time was because I was planning to move out of state, but the first and third time, both times. I didn't want to take the job. Yeah. And the reason why is because both scenarios. 80% client facing. And. I love being a dependable source for the client to be fast, to be honest, to be reliable, but I don't want to do that all the time. That prefer the majority of the role. And I've learned this recently in my path to self discovery. I really like teaching. And all my jobs haven't been, I have a team, so I get to teach them. Yeah. All the time I get to teach them. Yeah. And that's where I really love to do. I really, really love to teach about leadership because you can see the direct impact in their life. Hopefully pushing them from one tax bracket to another that's. That's my favorite. But just teaching in general, helping people be effective, do their job well. Blah-blah-blah. Anyway, so both positions, 80%, they were. Going to be client w you know, yeah. And let me tell you what the client doesn't need you to teach them anything. Not a thing. They just need you to do. Well, they told you to do right. Okay. All right. So this happened to you too. You have a similar scenario where opportunities have been presented to you, but you. knew you probably weren't going to love. The type of work. Is that true? Well, I remember there were a couple of opportunities where. Hey, we could really use you crunching these numbers and running these reports. Salesforce reports. ' cause you're kind of the go-to for, I need this report run. Yeah, that's true. A little bit of a plug and play. But you don't want to run reports all day. Yeah, that's true. I do know that when I was back in. The financial industry that I was getting a lot of opportunities to do things that I did not love. Um, but I did them anyway. Well promotion. But it did eventually get me promoted. But at the time I had a decision, do I want to get promoted or do I want to move to the place that I felt like our family was called to next? Right. So that was the same. That was your number two. Yeah, because I shouldn't have taken the job at least. That's what I thought back then. Honey. Yeah, it's another story for another day. Oh, but. I committed that job for a year and it. It is a sad story. We'll tell it some other time. But we committed to the job for the year. And, after that year, we ended up moving here anyway, and then falling in love with what we get to do now. Yes. Yeah. Yes, that would want to talk about. Well, we're just going to go over the rest of the practical handles. and to be honest, we went through so many. We can only give them two handles though. They only have two hands. Dad jokes. All right. So here's what we went over last time. I had to get them in order because we were, you know, I was making you gas. So anyway. Eliminate the boss's problems. Also bonus points, if you can eliminate the boss's problems. Yeah. By utilizing something that gives you joy. Yes. second one was to answer the boss's emails right away. Yeah. The third one, having. Their foot by you. I remember you telling the story in the last podcast. Because they send an email and they just came immediately over to your desk and sat and waited for you to return. No, he didn't sit 10 minutes tapping his foot. He wouldn't actually tap his foot, but He would come out and stand I'm here and he's right there. Hey, what's going on and he would lean over my, and he's he was like seven feet tall. SRC is really tall, dude. And just. Okay. My wife. All right. So answer emails right away. Number six. Be in the top 10% of character. We want over a whole bunch of those. And we decided to add, keep commitments. To that. Because you, the trust behaviors. Yeah. So we went over a whole bunch of those. And number next, be excited about changes. This is a really big one because most people are not excited about changes. Right. So. Hey change. If you're trying to stand out. It makes sense. Yeah. And here's what I don't get. Change is inevitable. Yeah. It's for sure. Going to happen. Right. So our body's literally changing every second of every day, the cells are dying. New cells are being created. We're putting on new skin. Every day, that's kind of gross. It is. But also we're stepping outside of our skin trying to get new. Alright. . Yeah, well, here's the thing. let's pretend the change is that you have a new system in which you need to run your schedule now. And it's mandated by the company. what good is it going to do? You. To buck against that system. Are you going to get the CEO and the COO to change their policy for hundreds of people, because you don't feel like changing. I think sometimes people feel like if they say something, they can change everything, but it doesn't. Oh, A couple of times and they realized nothing changes and then they don't say anything. I think it's learned helplessness, like the dog. You try to do something, you try to get out, you try to make a difference and then they don't see impact. And then they just stop trying. Yeah. I feel like that's probably 90% of the people. But I feel like people start very hopeful and then realize like, I'm going to go into this organization. I'm going to make it. Better place and it's gonna be awesome. Wow. That's okay. Hopefully helpful people. I just don't feel like that's true. Okay. But we can. Get a panel and interview them. That could be the pole. We can pull them. Yeah. We can move on this podcast because I don't, I'm not on board with that. Okay. Anyway. All right. So number next, prioritize your boss's goals or requests. And the next one asks how you can help use your skills that you use your joy. To just ask how you can help. Your boss, ask how you can help your colleagues just be helpful. Yep. And the last one was listen closely to your boss. So listen for. What their needs are. Want's interests needs. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. That's what we went over last week. So this week, oh wait, you, can't not this. You can say, I'm not looking so we can't lock. I'm not cheating. All right. No, that's fine. You can look. That's my list. I can't, I'm not going to look. Okay. Go ahead then. You want me to guess? Yeah, no, you just got to tell me the list. Oh, okay. So ask questions. Okay. Good leaders ask great questions quoted by John Maxwell. Wow. You, are just book, title after book, title. Oh, I remember things. All right. So ask questions about the business. Find out what challenges other people are facing. Show curiosity about how you can serve others, find out what your boss is dealing with, what their boss is dealing with and that bridges over to be helpful because you're trying to. Yeah. Trying to be helpful. Recently learned from the Harvard business review that one of the best things that you can do as leader is to care for your team and to do that, you actually have to ask them not. Are you getting your work done? Yes, you have to do that too, but. How are you doing? How are you feeling? How's your day? How's your weekend? The things that they actually care about, maybe they don't care about their weekend. Maybe they actually just, Hmm. not just how are you doing, but like, how do you want to grow? What do you want to achieve in life? And then you actually help them get there. So asking a lot of good questions. Yeah. They're not just. Stupid. But no, no question. That's not true. There are stupid questions. We can ask kind questions. Yeah, they will actually be helpful. Yeah, it's specific to the individual. Just find stuff out. Okay. You can tell what people care about by what they talk about. Yeah. That's a freebie y'all I did not include that in the thing. Okay. Number next, learn things. Learn things. We love this one. We were just trying to guess a leadership test the other day. And. They were like, what is one of the pillars of this? And we both said, learn. But it was not one of the pillars, but we still feel like it is an important silent subliminal pillar. Yeah. I disagree. I think it shouldn't be learned. That should be because. Leaders are learners. That's right. Yeah. And the world is constantly changing. Your team is changing. Yeah. You might have new people, but even if you have the same people, the same people are changing and evolving and growing and hopefully they're learning. Yeah. Yeah, we have to learn. And if you just say, learn things, you can encompass so many. You could solve so many problems. Yeah. And just continue to learn and you don't have to learn specific things. We talked about the working genius a lot. You can learn things that are actually making you better at the stuff that you love to do. Yeah, I don't think that you should suffer through learning. Yeah. Find your joy. Kind of what you want to learn. Wow. I hated learning in elementary school because it was all the stuff that I didn't want to learn. Elementary that's like ABC 1, 2, 3. It's like history, I guess, middle school and high school too, but history science. I didn't like any of that stuff. Geography. I was not a fan. I became a fan when it was psychology, because I love thinking about thinking. And then everything changed. Well, I loved school. I loved school. I just love to learn things. Yeah. I had a teacher though. I would say his name, but it's probably not nice. I had a really terrible teacher. Okay. And don't say his name. I quit school. I mean, I went back, but I initially quit school because I was like, oh, This joker than with you. Then with, you know, all your tricks, right. so there are some different ways you could learn things. We read a book. Yes. But sometimes I like a physical book. Sometimes you can listen to an audible book if you're driving or folding the clothes or. Mindlessly checking emails you could read. Yes slash listen to a book or you can listen to a podcast. you can mindlessly listen to a podcast. There's so many different podcasts too. I've learned because you know, I'm in there now. And. You could try. Ooh, try something new. Branch out. Cultural that your interests. Yeah. Natalia was telling me that she that's my sister. Yes, she is doing so many cool things. And none of them are the same. it's all over the place. Yeah. She's working with the deaf community. She is working with young, under privileged children. Yeah. I mean, all these different things that are I'm like you are doing. You're doing it right. if you try things then, you know, and you can kind of figure out what you want to do and you don't want to do yeah. So there's that. And you don't have to wait until you're a grownup and then figure it out. Right. We're adults. Yes, we are. All right. Solve problems. So that's number next number next solve problems. This is also number six of wait a second. It's already on here. Skip. Yeah. Alright, embrace change or did it that one? You did. Okay. Two more. Okay. Are you excited? So this is number. I don't know what. Ask for feedback, ask for feedback. Yeah. That's not the easiest thing to do. What do you think about that? I've heard. What is it like to be on the other side of me? Yeah. I'm just dreading hearing the answer. It's hard. It's hard to ask for feedback. It's also hard to give it. Yeah, but I'd rather like my mind is more dangerous. Wandering and assuming. How that person feels instead of just asking them straight up and popping the balloon. And just alright. Popping the balloon is scary. Let's just say ripping the bandaid off. Just understand what it is, but they think needs to be different. And I can say, is this true? This is not true. If it is true, then I can actually work to make it better. Otherwise I can. Right. Just move on. Yeah, just Help me understand how you can get better. Yeah. You can kind of read people's expressions a little bit. And tell if it's looking crunchy. I don't like this one. Well, I'm not saying you should just read an expression and make us an assumption. I'm not saying that. Yeah. Because I actually, read, so this lady, I think she's a psychologist. She was saying, something like 80% of the time when you have a grouchy face on. It's not because you're grouchy. Yeah. because you're hungry. Well, she listed other even. She listed a whole bunch of other reasons, because I remember my team used to. come over to my desk and they'll be like, are you. Are you okay? And I'll be just fine. But I would be focused. And that was actually one of the things she listed. If you have this gradually Look on your face. It could be just because you're, you're really focused. Okay. I'm not alone. Yes. All right. Last thing is perception is reality. Okay. This is whack. Okay. Why. Well, because. Perception is not reality, but that's the world that we live in. So for example, Other people's perception of perception. So if your boss Sees you. Type in V lookup and Excel. And it's a formula. Maybe they just assume that you are great at Excel. But. But let's say, if you look up as the only thing that, you know, Maybe that's the only thing you Googled. That's how I operate. I only know the things because I Googled it and I had to do it. Not for most of us, YouTube. Yeah. I'd rather do it that way. Anyway, Yeah. So on the other end, this is where it can get nasty. Let's say somebody gives negative feedback to your boss about you. Then your boss has this perception that that is actually true, even if it may or may not be true. Right. And so that's when they can be dangerous. And obviously you could work to correct and learn and get better and try to. fix the situation, but regardless if you fix the situation, regardless if it was completely untrue to begin with. Right. Your boss has this in his or her head that remains right. Well, remember that one time when I got feedback about. The da. And so you have to work really, really hard to overcome that. Yes. The other example I could think of is. Well, I didn't intend to do that. That wasn't my intention. It's like, well, I understand that. However, that's not how I came across. And so that perception in this scenario, it's like, well, that wasn't my heart. It's. Okay. But the people didn't see are. They saw that you yelled at everybody and called them cuss words. I was like, okay. Well perception of everybody in the room was that this guy or girl is not. Thinking clearly. Or whatever. So we need to try better to get our heart across or to ask for feedback of how we can be better so that the perception can be changed. Yeah, don't cuss. That would be one. Yes. Wow. Also help me understand. Yeah, help me understand. It's a great question. Yeah. Be inquisitive. How would you ask questions? There it is. It's in there full circle. Okay. I want to end on a quote that I really liked. is that, do you know who Rumi is? No Rummy. No. Jim Rummy. I don't know, here's the quote. Okay. Be a lamp. Or a lifeboat or a ladder. Okay. Don't you love it. Be a lamp for someone or be a lifeboat for someone or be a ladder for someone. Yeah, I was taking it literally. I'm like, I don't get it. Long day. Isn't it lovely. It is great. Yeah. The light up the way. Save someone's life or help someone. Elevate. Oh, my word. I love that. All right. Well, listen, y'all I hope that that helped you. I'm so excited about what you're about to do with this. That is it for today though? Yeah. Thank you for listening. And if you're seeing something at work that maybe you aren't ready to speak up about, maybe. Let me be brave for you. Share your story by calling you're texting me at 8 6 4 6 1 9 1 6 8 3 and let's pick it apart together. One more thing. I have gotten a few stories and comments, et cetera from you in the past few weeks. And I got to tell you I'm really loving, digging into them all next week. We're gonna talk about some of the things that you sent me. And also we're going to give you a few updates on the stories that we've shared over the past couple months. It's going to be fun. You can also type in the YouTube comments and tell us what you really liked. Or if you have an idea from the show and listen friend, we know it's not easy, but remember that whatever it is, you're walking through, you are not alone and together we can make the world a better place to work. Thanks for listening team. Take care and see you next week.
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